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  2. RatavaNo Gravatar says:

    Global change will happen when it must. Otherwise, the human race is doomed. I have no stake in this matter, because I will live my life and be happy, regardless of the unconscious attempts of humans to undermine that. Evolve or die. These are humanity’s options, and Time is proverbially running out. In the next Age or Aeon, this species will either be remembered as an example or an ancestor.

  3. The author of this piece seems to get a big part of what “Discordians must stick apart” means. An organized, structured and locatable collective can be surrounded, arrested, bombed, destroyed. But a number of individuals or very small groups, sometimes acting in random fashion, can succeed in making change without being too noticed. And if some of them are noticed and stopped, the rest can still act. It’s actually one of the big lessons of Nineteen Eighty-Four: act alone, or with one or a few others, and you can resist. Join the Resistance, and you may just be giving yourself up.

    • Professor CramulusNo Gravatar says:

      true, but there’s certain “big picture” stuff that you can only do when you’re organized. I get frustrated sometimes by the energies in the Discordian Society which work against sticking together. I think it’s very limiting.

      We have to be capable of working independently, but we also have to be willing to band together at times for stuff we care about. I don’t think the Discordian Society is meant to be a large coherent organization with central leadership or anything, but I’m willing to accept the leadership of others (for a while) if they’re willing to step up and start moving in some direction. See where Eris takes us.

      “Discordians should stick apart” has become, for some, an excuse to focus their energies on attacking other Discordians, rather than collaborating or focusing on mutual problems, and I think that’s whack. Everybody’s allowed to attack whoever they want, sure, and some of us are jerks anyway, but ultimately we’re all playing for the same team. We can do really cool stuff if we’re willing to cooperate and help each other out.

      I mean that’s what OMGASM is about – it’s an attempt to create channels of action within the Discordian Society which do not require consensus or central leadership. We all individually get to pick what Discordia means, point to something in the distance which we want to move towards, and hopefully others will help us get there, rather than trying to dismantle the boat out from under us.

      That being said, Strife has its uses. Stress brings a group together, and attacks on something help identify its weak points. Competition can be a catalyst for improvement. But I think strife should be a tool we use, not the mode we’re in 100% of the time.

      Saint Mae said it best: “Sticking apart is more fun when we do it together.”


      • I agree with you, in some sense. OMGASM itself is partially an example of what I’m talking about–there is no central headquarters, there is no gathering of everyone, but it does collect a significant amount of people. I think OMGASM is great, and yes, if you combine the resources of a lot of small groups, you can in some ways get more done.

        But it’s easier to stop a large group that several small groups. As one of the original Discordians said in an interview in a certain, ahem, magazine (issue 7 at ), using cells or small groups is how Chairman Mao won China. The individual groups didn’t know where the other groups were, their plans, or even everyone who was in the other groups. Capturing or even destroying one group didn’t stop the others. We live in the 21st century when the most powerful nation on Earth was successfully attacked by a tiny handful of people armed with nothing more with box cutters. I’m not promoting that kind of terrorism by any means; I’m completely opposed to it. And I have no problem with joining a big group to work on big issues. But for some things, I prefer to work alone, or with a handful of dedicated and weird people.

      • I think the key is “loosely”. What I don’t want to see happen to discordia is the whole “cult of personality” thing. A leader is no good unless they are followed, and Discordians are typically not good followers (at least, I’m not) and I fear anyone who wants to lead this group of mental defectives.

        I think the natural piling-on that was inherent in the Yahoo:Discordia group back in the early 2000s was the pinnacle of this that I have experienced firsthand: Ideas were thrown out and when one stuck everyone piled on. It didn’t matter where the idea came from, and most of us couldn’t say who originated what without looking back in the messages because it didn’t really matter.

        I think that might be what you are going for in OMGASM, but I think you are generally seen as the organizer of that, so I’m not sure if it will ever be able to achieve that state of headlessness.

        • I miss that Yahoo group; it technically still exists, but hasn’t been active since some of the active members had reason to disappear for a while. Frankly, it was probably my favorite on the Internet largely because it was such a Hodge Podge that could go any direction at any moment, and then completely change direction. Whatever happened was interesting, whether it was debating the relative merits of differing political modalities or talking about silly imaginary relatives and kitty litter. It could be completely silly and completely sophisticated, and all on the same day. There were no sides involved, no us and them, and half of the posters weren’t even sure who’s site it was supposed to be. Each person was an individual, and sometimes more than one individual.

 I think is the closest I know of a Discordian discussion site that doesn’t feel like it belongs to anyone, largely because Prince Mu-Chao let it go on its own. I actually had a few people who thought it was my site, and heard others who thought it was Cramulus’ site, or DrJon’s site, simply because we were regular posters. (Where is DrJon, by the way?) I seem incapable of doing anything without saying, “Hey, everybody, look at me!” so haven’t been able to pull that kind of stunt off, and probably won’t.

          But I think OMGASM or Operation Mindfuck: Golden Apple Seed Mission will move beyond being Professor Cramulus’ baby. For one thing, OM predates Cramulus, and the idea of spreading Discordian Jakes and putting up odd signs and such also predates the professor. What Cramulus has is a knack for saying, “Hey, everybody, this will be fun,” and getting people to go along without getting some people pissed at em, which I also fail to do. But I have a feeling that e will be moving on to something else, which in some ways e already has.

          As for Discordians not being followers, I have to disagree. No group of any significant size exists without followers; it’s the old “too many cooks spoil the broth” and “you can’t have all chiefs and no braves.” We already have “cults of personality”–in fact I remember a fine piece by Mu-Chao that talked about this, with the Robert Anton Wilson Discordians as a group. But I think Discordianism as a whole is less likely to fall into that trap that into another one–the trap of “our Discordian group is wonderful and what our people do is all wonderful but your group sucks.”

  4. theravenhidesNo Gravatar says:

    LABEL. i’m only somebodies nobody but… its pretty apparent there are leaders. Just the fellows/aws that post more than others are leaders only because they are the example that – whatever THESE discordians are – admire
    whether your well organized or not your still an organization. Whether or not you a amoebic – still a paremicium.

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